Expurgated, director's cut.

911 was an inside crime. It continues.

The only thing real on 911 was TV fakery. Everything else we were shown on TV was false.

Thanks and a tip of our hat to Joe Craine, YouTube   more...martyr.

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CNN was showing ABC's feed at 9:02 AM 911. CNN's on screen clock was right. ABC's on screen clock was right.

But, CNN was airin CNN was showing ABC's feed at 9:02 AM 911. CNN's on screen clock was right.   more...ABC's on screen clock was right.

But, CNN was airing ABC's broadcast!

Based on the video shown millions of people and now archived, these 2 networks showed UA175 hitting WTC2 at different times.

Same broadcast. Different times.

911 was an inside crime. It continues.

The only thing real on 911 was TV fakery. Everything els A recorded flyby, not UA175.

911 was an inside crime. It continues.

The only thing real on 911 was TV fakery. Everything else we were shown on TV was false.

Thanks and a tip of our hat to Joe Craine, YouTube martyr.

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Prognostication; 20 minutes for BBC, 5.5 seconds for FOX5 at 9:03AM expanding to 6 minutes 3 seconds at 4:09PM. Knowing the future Prognostication; 20 minutes for BBC, 5.5 seconds for FOX5 at 9:03AM expanding   more...to 6 minutes 3 seconds at 4:09PM. Knowing the future is a skill few have. Usually there's an inside track, no oracle.

Are we to assume that FOX5 has a bad clock? Nope. They were playing pre-recorded tapes.

Indict FOX.

911 was an inside crime. It continues.

The only thing real on 911 was TV fakery. Everything els A recorded flyby, not UA175.

911 was an inside crime. It continues.

The only thing real on 911 was TV fakery. Everything else we were shown on TV was false.

Thanks and a tip of our hat to Joe Craine, YouTube martyr.

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From 911 archive FOX5 as Brian Bolter tells us that UA175 hit the north tower (just like our videos show) and that AP reported a c From 911 archive FOX5 as Brian Bolter tells us that UA175 hit the north   more...tower (just like our videos show) and that AP reported a cell phone call from UA93's toilet - the source of all FOX reports.


911 was an inside crime. It continues.

The only thing real on 911 was TV fakery. Everything else we were shown on TV was false.

Thanks and a tip of our hat to Joe Craine, YouTube martyr.

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audrey barnes located herself and her camera on the highway interchange island of 110 and 27S north west of the pentagon.

As she tells the person she is interviewing, she saw debris just 20 feet from where   more...she was standing. Just 20 feet.

As she told him, she glanced down 27.

aaron brown couldn't have done a better job.

Matter of fact, he didn't.  less

UA175 emerges from the NY Good Day on screen emblem, coming out of the outer ring.

911 was an inside crime. It continues.

The only thing real on 911 was TV fakery. Everything els A recorded flyby, not UA175.
  more...
911 was an inside crime. It continues.

The only thing real on 911 was TV fakery. Everything else we were shown on TV was false.

Thanks and a tip of our hat to Joe Craine, YouTube martyr.

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At 5:31 9/11, the FAA released an executive summary that said that UA175 was still airborne at 9:30am EDT.

The challenge is to find the source of that error.

Guesses of the impact time are welcome with   more...supporting evidence (conclusive evidence is not required)

Voice over is the studio anchor Jim Ryan telling his eyewitness on the ground, Dick Olly Olliver what he saw from Park Row (In front of NY City Hall) and confirming what we all saw in the saltergate video; UA175 went all the way thru.

The transition image shows that whatever saltergate showed us, there was no effect from gravity.

911 errors.
911 physics.
911 time.

911 was an inside crime. It continues.

The only thing real on 911 was TV fakery. Everything els A recorded flyby, not UA175.

911 was an inside crime. It continues.

The only thing real on 911 was TV fakery. Everything else we were shown on TV was false.

Thanks and a tip of our hat to Joe Craine, YouTube martyr.

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aaron brown told us the pentagon was on fire at 9:40am, 2 min, 53 seconds after the 911 commission report says the attack actually occurred and about 2 min before CBS and NBC showed us live shots of a   more...fireball, a silent fireball, outside the pentagon's west wall near the chopper pad.
CNN reported later that very day that the Pentagon attack occurred at 9:43. Certainly understandable given the events of the day. But, the next day and more than a year later, CNN was still reporting the incorrect time. Anyone who has a CNN reference with a different time, I hope you will share it in comments.
daryl donley's story has him experiencing the attack as he was stopped in traffic on 27 right outside the west wall of the pentagon. At 9:43. According to his story, it took him several minutes to get his picture - a picture gracing the library of congress because of its significance.
As CBS and NBC unfocused their "live" cameras on the west wall of the pentagon at 9:43am, we were treated to a serious fireball (starting under the channel 9 figleaf and behind the NBC peacock). We never see another although multiple explosions are reported on TV.
Did daryl donley arrive at 9:37am, fumble with his camera then capture the CBS/NBC fireball, or was his memory correct and the fire started before the fireball created by the attack?
Any other reasons for CNN to have used the 9:43 time should be exposed in comments.
The text is from a news article no longer available - you may find a copy by searching portions of the text. The image is from the library of congress copy. The [slowmo] video segments are from the no longer available US archive high def mpegs. An interesting phenomenon is that neither CBS nor NBC ever reported the time during the 41 minute
Someone not blocked on xenomorph911wtc's channel should ask him why he has not posted these video clips!  less

livevideo is violating the law of the land by not honoring fair use exceptions to the US copyright law.
This is absolutley fair use! I use only a small protion and it is an entirely new work.
It has the   more...proper CR statement on it warning that further use is restricted. It properly credits the source (US archive)
I would say that the president stepping on the accepted symbol of America (I pledge allegience to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all) is a louder message than any flag burning could ever have been.
Who will crush the head of this snake? The newly elected president who was stripped of his US citizenship and has foreign nationals in his cabinet?
nah, I don't think so.  less

That Was The Week That Was.
November 22, 2008, the 45th anniversary of the assassination of President John Fitzgerald Kennedy (JFK) Americans were once again raped by his murderers.
The archived copies   more...of the attack on America were removed from public availability.
This movie is available in streaming format NOT.
The archived copies of the attack on America were removed from public availability.
The archived copies of the attack on America were removed from public availability.
While the saying is that the victors write history, we know that the perps delete it.
Here is New York is long gone. Now the archive joins the death march.
Back up.
Back up.
Always back up.
This video is in tribute to Joe Craine, without whose research we would still have the internet archives still available. More importantly, it is in humble tribute to KillTown and TheWebFairy both of whom have religiously archived and backed up from the earliest times.
The voiceover (from the defunct archive) medley includes additional proof of media complicity...
Listen as the Spanish speaker being interviewed at the pentagon says the plane he saw was white and blue and looked like a United Airlines plane. The translator acts dumb and says Spanish speaker said a ”United States” plane, then the studio host cans the interview and mis-characterizing the argument as one of size, rather than color.  less

Warning; crude language.

911 was an inside crime. It continues.

The only thing real on 911 was TV fakery. Everything else we were shown on TV was false.

Thanks and a tip of our hat to Joe Craine, YouTube   more...martyr.

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The CBS "chopper" revolved around WTC1 on the west side from slghtly south of WTC1 to slightly north.

An amazing thing happened as the chopper reached the point where the north face of WTC1 was   more...perpendicular to the view captured on the camera...

The importance of trigonometry in rotating a 3D image in 2D revealed TV fakery.

COS(90)=0 creating a singularity at 90 degrees for any function requiring a division by the COS of the angle.

How is this a smoking gun?

The billowing smoke coming from the north face stopped billowing.

Fortunately, as the "chopper" did not stay long at the perpendicular position and the COS of the angle of the view stopped being zero, the north face smoke grew ever more billowy as required in the RFP.

So, I have some advice for the budding graphic/digital artists out there...

Don't quit math!

murtagh, lin and cellini may be verified at
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0109/11/bn.01.html
transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0109/11/bn.01.html  less

Not only did Jim Ryan think it was the nose, but FOX5 showed the segment.

911 was an inside crime. It continues.

The only thing real on 911 was TV fakery. Everything els A recorded flyby, not UA175.

911   more...was an inside crime. It continues.

The only thing real on 911 was TV fakery. Everything else we were shown on TV was false.

Thanks and a tip of our hat to Joe Craine, YouTube martyr.

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C.
Got a better resolution image of the west wall of the Pentagon fire station before the C appeared. Couldn't resist hammering home the point.

"I have spoken to the Vice President, to the Governor of New York, to the Director of the FBI, and have ordered that the full resources of the federal government go to help the victims and their   more...families, and to conduct a full-scale investigation to hunt down and to find those folks who committed this act"

"folks?"

The biggest crime committed against Americans in American history and he's gonna catch the "folks!"

Oh, read the transcript, apparently the people at Booker were among the perps, as he calls them "folks" also.

He is just such a great Christian; lovin' all folks, even his enemies!

Drawng Mickey on 911; CBS proves TV fakery

Impeach, indict, convict, impale  less

On September 11, 2001 at 9:02:56, FOX NEWS caught the most important event in American history before any other network even knew there was an event to be concerned about.

FOX even scooped their own NY   more...affiliate WNYW that couldn't get the impact of UA175 and WTC2 until after 9:03:00 EDT.

Even the West Coast FOX affiliates caught UA175 crashing into WTC2 before WNYW's HIGH5 could.

And every single network scooped the source of the time of impact used by the 911 Commission.

Interestingly, Pavel Hlava, the immigrant who miraculously caught both events on his brand new video camera got the impact, to the second, the same as FOX; 9:02:56. That is the time shown on his camera! 911 miracles.

no SHARIA 9-11 child executions gay london police muslim muslims moslim moslims islam soldiers soldeirs iraq iran sharia army marines usa war crime crimes criminal criminals death britney uma FOX ABC CBS CNN NBC disney BBC afghanistan snipe snope sniper snipers depleted uranium DU u 238 U238 truth stripped naked torture abu graib constitution planer planes crash impact demolish controlled demolition blooper blooper  less

From 911 NBC just after 6:00pm.

To fight an animated fire, you just need a lot of animated water.

We were never shown any real firefighting at th From 911 NBC just after 6:00pm.

You can't fight a real fire   more...with fake water.

We were never shown any real firefighting at the pentagon on 9-11.

911 was an inside crime. It continues.

The only thing real on 911 was TV fakery. Everything else we were shown on TV was false.

Thanks and a tip of our hat to Joe Craine, YouTube martyr.

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From 911 NBC just after 6:00pm.

You can't fight a real fire with fake water.

We were never shown any real firefighting at th From 911 NBC just after 6:00pm.

You can't fight a real fire with fake water.

We   more...were never shown any real firefighting at the pentagon on 9-11.

911 was an inside crime. It continues.

The only thing real on 911 was TV fakery. Everything else we were shown on TV was false.

Thanks and a tip of our hat to Joe Craine, YouTube martyr.

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From 911 NBC just after 6:00pm.

We were never shown any real firefighting at the pentagon on 9-11.

911 was an inside crime. From 911 NBC just after 6:00pm.

We were never shown any real firefighting at the   more...pentagon on 9-11.

911 was an inside crime. It continues.

The only thing real on 911 was TV fakery. Everything else we were shown on TV was false.

Thanks and a tip of our hat to Joe Craine, YouTube martyr.

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Isn't that what the "crossing the line videos" have been saying?

911 was an inside crime. It continues.

The only thing real Isn't that what the "crossing the line videos" have been saying?
  more...
911 was an inside crime. It continues.

The only thing real on 911 was TV fakery. Everything els A recorded flyby, not UA175.

911 was an inside crime. It continues.

The only thing real on 911 was TV fakery. Everything else we were shown on TV was false.

Thanks and a tip of our hat to Joe Craine, YouTube martyr.

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I have the clockes mixed up. The clock I call the FOX5 clock - the nearly hidden one - is the Good Day wnyw clock which is 5.5 seconds ahead of the FOX5 clock - the clearly visible one - near the top   more...of the figleaf. Sorry!

Prognostication; 20 minutes for BBC, 5.5 seconds for FOX5. Knowing the future is a skill few have. Usually there's an inside track, no oracle.

Are we to assume that FOX5 has a bad clock?

911 was an inside crime. It continues.

The only thing real on 911 was TV fakery. Everything els A recorded flyby, not UA175.

911 was an inside crime. It continues.

The only thing real on 911 was TV fakery. Everything else we were shown on TV was false.

Thanks and a tip of our hat to Joe Craine, YouTube martyr.

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BBC obscures bad video fakery

LIVE WTC CONSPIRACY PROOF 911 was TV Fakery - Joe Craine

An upgrade version.
That Was The Week That Was.
November 22, 2008, the 45th anniversary of the assassination of President John Fitzgerald Kennedy (JFK) Americans were once again raped by his murderers.
The   more...archived copies of the attack on America were removed from public availability.
This movie is available in streaming format NOT.
The archived copies of the attack on America were removed from public availability.
The archived copies of the attack on America were removed from public availability.
While the saying is that the victors write history, we know that the perps delete it.
Here is New York is long gone. Now the archive joins the death march.
Back up.
Back up.
Always back up.
This video is in tribute to Joe Craine, without whose research we would still have the internet archives still available. More importantly, it is in humble tribute to KillTown and TheWebFairy both of whom have religiously archived and backed up from the earliest times.
The voiceover (from the defunct archive) medley includes additional proof of media complicity...
Listen as the Spanish speaker being interviewed at the pentagon says the plane he saw was white and blue and looked like a United Airlines plane. The translator acts dumb and says Spanish speaker said a ”United States” plane, then the studio host cans the interview and mis-characterizing the argument as one of size, rather than color.  less