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| | LVCM - LiveVideo Community Moderators Part II | | | Monday, March 3, 2008 (6:24 PM)
(I'm feeling annoyed) | | Ok... So the saga continues...
I read and watched other peoples comments on this subject.
There are good people who are moderators. Don't take it that I do not feel this way.
Anoymous:
My point to anonymous mods is something that I would think mods would actually think is a good idea if they thought about it. First of all, you are a user of LiveVideo. When you kick/ban someone then you are open to having some drama thrust upon you just because you are trying to take your power seriously. When people are kicked, the first reaction is going to be... you the mod, overreacted and abused your power. Come on ... you know... And on top of that, you add the fact you may or may not be friends with someone else and the situation gets worst... cause its probably a personal kick... and then begins the drama on you. On the other side of the coin, if your friend is running show he is going to expect you to be more forgiving of them... And if not, what happens? Its not fair to you!
I think it was caveman in his liveroom who says "if you were pulled over by a cop, would you rather know who they are or not".... well of course I would... they would probably let me go! Because you are a user just like everyone else, your objectivity is always in question.
Also, keep in mind, those of you who think this is a bad idea, when you are kicked from a room... it doesn't even tell you who did it. Its left up to the imagination of the person kicked and the honisty of the channel owner for someone to figure out who did it... Caveman also said in a room the other day that as he understands it, livevideo doesn't even record who kicked who and any information leading up to this.
Admins are Anonymous... and this has worked out just fine.
Kicking Normal Users:
Why do moderators need this power? There is a channel operator. The channel operator should be responsible for policing their own channel. Its their show. Kicking and Banning are simple functions. There should be mods just in case the owner decides to go afk a second and leave the show unattended? Well, thats a stroke of luck if a mod just so happened to pass by and see someone doing something wrong. I can understand shutting shows down because of content if the owner doesn't control their show.
Modding Others:
My only point here is why don't the channel owners have the ability to do this themselves? I would think that channel operators would really like this feature... as said before ... so they can deligate. Why must they contact a Mod to do this?
Look, I appreciate other peoples views on this subject. These however are my views. I think that most can agree that this was not really handled very well. Of course a lot of LiveVideo needs policing, and not just the shows. Also, this isn't a job... you're not getting paid to sit in rooms and wait for someone to do something wrong. You are first and foremost, users who enjoy LiveVideo just like us.
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| | LVCM - Live Video Community Moderators | | | Sunday, March 2, 2008 (6:23 PM)
(I'm feeling annoyed) | | In general I would say the whole moderator idea is total crap.
What are the mods really good for? Making other moderators in a person’s channel? Well, why the heck can't the room operator do that? Its ridiculous to think they can't. If you're running a show, you might want to delegate moderator power to someone else. Why must they beg others (mods and admins) to help them accomplish this? Plus on top of that, if the person who you have modded has lost connection, they will return un-modded and the whole cycle starts over. No one from LiveVideo has explained why this function is not given to the LiveShow owner.
If its there to bust up rooms, well then maybe the Moderator should be anonymous to the room users so that when the room is shut down, there isn't a direct person to blame on the users side and have those actions recorded so they can later be contested to the admin.
Knowing all the "Factions" of livevideo, they (livevideo) should have expected that any kicking could be attributed to something other than actually doing something wrong.
And on top of that, I would agree with Mac on a point... Some mods are acting like they speak for LiveVideo... Instead of moderators speaking for LiveVideo, they should be speaking for themselves. Moderators do not actually know any more than the common users.
What about everyone else who thinks they should have been given moderator? There seemed to be an almost random choice of who would be Moderator and who wouldn't. It almost seems like it was some happy go lucky buddy thing. Were the right people chosen? And why were they thrust upon us?. There seems to be no sensible method used. Instead of just hiring people to do this who could really be held accountable. Oh yeah… I know that users are told that they may loose their status or even their accounts… but get real. They are not going to easily take the second action.
And to counter those who say… well the mods are not to blame… its that they were not given proper training on when to kick and ban. Bullcrap! People know what’s right and what’s wrong. You can’t use the excuse I “broke into someone’s home and shot the owner because I wasn’t trained how to use a gun” on me. We are all older than that. Lets not insult peoples intelligence.
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